Both curved and straight can be good for cutting and thrusting. Incidentally it was actually British cavalry who during Napoleonic wars used more straight sword instead of a more curved sword. Brutal effectiveness of straight swords in combat, from wiki, sourced at Cotton , p.
Charles Ewart , 2nd Dragoons Scots Greys concerning how he captured an Imperial Eagle at Waterloo : It was in the charge I took the eagle off the enemy; he and I had a hard contest for it; he made a thrust at my groin I parried it off and cut him down through the head.
After this a lancer came at me; I threw the lance off my right side, and cut him through the chin upwards through the teeth. Next, a foot soldier fired at me, then charged me with his bayonet, which I also had the good luck to parry, and I cut him down through the head ; thus ended the contest.
Late said:. War-issued swords would be definitely sharpened to be ready for combat. I doubt that French would issue those kind of instructions. I have a feeling that this is more towards the bayonet style fighting. That being said, were I tasked with a 1v1 bayonet combat, I would personally want a sharp bayonet rather than a dull one.
Probably only the closest pportion of the blade next to the handguard, would be left unsharpened ' you cant leverage much power in cuts anyway, close to the handguard with the blade portion. British style cavalry straight sword was one-edge style backsword thus aptly named Close range it would be better to pummel the enemy with the pommel Or make draw cuts with the blade alternatively. Problem with the sword thrusting in horseback combat was always that you could lose your weapon in the confusing melee.
That is, your wrist would be "overpowered", when your sword goes through the enemy's body, up to the level of the handguard. That could plausibly happen when you charge on horseback. So it could be difficult to retrive the sword after attacks. The weapon gained widespread use in the early 19th century, inspired by the Mameluke sword , a type of Middle Eastern scimitar. The original type of Szabla or Polish sabre was used as a cavalry weapon, probably inspired by Hungarian or wider Turco-Mongol warfare.
The Karabela was a type of szabla popular in the late 17th century, worn by the Polish, Lithuanian, and Ukrainian nobility class, the Szlachta. While designed as a cavalry weapon, it also came to replace various types of straight-bladed swords used by infantry.
The briquet , typical infantry sabre of the Napoleonic Wars. The sabre saw extensive military use in the early 19th century, particularly in the Napoleonic Wars , during which Napoleon used heavy cavalry charges to great effect against his enemies.
Shorter versions of the sabre were also used as sidearms by dismounted units, although these were gradually replaced by fascine knives and sword bayonets as the century went on. The sabre faded as a weapon by mid-century, as longer-range rifles made cavalry charges obsolete, even suicidal. Many cavalrymen—particularly on the Confederate side—eventually abandoned the long, heavy weapons in favour of revolvers and carbines. Although there was extensive debate over the effectiveness of weapons such as the sabre and lance , the sabre remained the standard weapon of cavalry for mounted action in most armies until World War I.
Thereafter it was gradually relegated to the status of a ceremonial weapon , and most horse cavalry was replaced by armoured cavalry from on.
In the Polish—Lithuanian Commonwealth 16—18th century a specific type of sabre-like melee weapon, the szabla , was used. The Don Cossacks used the shashka , originating from Circassian "sashho" - big knife and sablja from Circassian "sa" - knife and "blja" - snake , which also saw military and police use in the Russian Empire and early Soviet Union.
A British Hussar general with a scabbarded kilij of Turkish manufacture Europeans rekindled their interest in sabres due to their confrontations with the Mamelukes in the late 18th century and early 19th century. The Mamluks were originally of Turkish descent, the Egyptians bore Turkish sabres for hundreds of years.
During the Napoleonic Wars , the French conquest of Egypt brought these beautiful and functional swords to the attention of the Europeans. This type of sabre became very popular for light cavalry officers, in both France and Britain, and became a fashionable weapon for senior officers to wear.
The elegant but effective pattern sword that the British Government authorized for use by infantry officers during the wars against Napoleon featured a curved sabre blade which was often blued and engraved by the owner in accordance with his personal taste.
In , the "Mamaluke" sword became a regulation pattern for British general officers and is still in use today. The American victory over the rebellious forces in the citadel of Tripoli in during the First Barbary War , led to the presentation of bejewelled examples of these swords to the senior officers of the US Marines.
Officers of the US Marine Corps still use a mameluke pattern dress sword. Although some genuine Turkish kilij sabres were used by Westerners, most "mameluke sabres" were manufactured in Europe; their hilts were very similar in form to the Ottoman prototype, however, their blades, even when an expanded yelman was incorporated, tended to be longer, narrower and less curved than those of the true kilij.
During the 19th and in the early 20th century, sabres were also used by both mounted and dismounted personnel in some European police forces. When the sabre was used by mounted police against crowds, the results could be appalling, as in a key scene in Doctor Zhivago.
Log in. Forum index. Spotlight Topics. This is a standard topic. Hector Mendoza Joined: 14 Oct Posts: I was having a discussion in another forum about sabers. One guy claims that if a cavalry saber is not edged then it ceases to be a saber and it is a sword. I claim that sabers became more and more straight throughout the years until their main purpose became only thrusting. JPG I don't see a curve! Posted: Thu 22 Oct, pm Post subject:. Sabel, probably ult. Posted: Fri 23 Oct, am Post subject:.
Hello The sabre is originated in Europe from the single edged variants of the straight avar swords like the one of Kubrat in an other topic from yesterday.
In the 7. These sabres had nairly narow or slightly curved blades, almost like the weaponst of the nomads in th C. In the Cent the greeks, south-slavs, romanians, albanians, venetians f.
In hte 18th Century with the creating of the first husar and ulan regiments became the saber popular in middle and West Europe, too. But in the second hallf of the 19th Cent.
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